Story DLC should have already been in the game but I still want it so I am gonna buy it. I never really cared about having new costumes and getting the DLC monster/character doesn\'t matter after you beat the hardest guy in the game (Yomi).

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At first I thought it was pretty good, I got the Omega DLC with pre order and I bought the Lightning/Amodar battle and Serah Beachwear/Noel Space Time Guardian costumes. But now that I have platinumed the game, I don't see it worth getting. I have heard that the Sazh DLC is just minigames, the weapons won't add much to the game play for me and I wouldn't go back to the game to fight Jihl Nabaat. Gilgamesh sounds worth my time and maybe the Lightning story DLC. But post game, the DLC adds nothing to the experience especially for those prices!

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When the game was originally being developed, we were promised a game that would have paralleling stories of Serah and Lightning. That we would see them at different fronts fighting to a similar goal. This is what I had expected going into 13-2. What we got was just Serah. Now this "Lightning's Story" DLC is supposed to show us what happened with Lightning. That's crap if you ask me. We are getting the other half of the game we original was promised, now DLC.

I've always hated DLC that is produced pre-release. It's like taking a full complete game, ripping content out, selling the now incomplete game for full retail, then selling the ripped content for more money. As for content developed AFTER the game is released, I think it's only natural to pay for further development. Again, as long as the original game was completed and has no planned holes to fill with DLC.

That said, most if not all of FF13-2's DLC was being developed pre-release. All of it was planned pre-release. I can let slide the costumes, Light/Amodar, and Sazh as they arn't really crucial here. But the upcoming Lightning's Story DLC has become a steam in my pot.

So no, I'm not happy >_<

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the idea of DLC itself is good, but companies use it to steal our wallets -.-, i mean look at FF 13-2... months before the release Square was already planning to do DLC for FF 13-2... DLC is something that developers should do to help people come back to a game months after playing it, not something they should use as a way to make us pay for 10% of the game that should be rightfully ours :/

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DLC is not something that developers just magically cook up after a game is released people, DLC takes much planning even before the game launches and as much as effort to create it. DLC is profitable, thats why Square along with many others Publishers and Devs are creating it. Cry foul when a game that releases has disc locked content that you have to pay for as \"DLC\". See GoW3 and the recent Street Fighter X Tekken.

Now onto the quality of the DLC for FFXIII-2. I like it. Sure, to me it seems like outfits should cost no more than 2 bucks but, 3 isnt an outrageous amount. New weapons are nice. I particularly like that they have different designs rather than just being the same bow but having different colors like the rest, and for just a 1 buck? Who will complain? An idiot.... And the Colosseum battles are also a good addition. My only complaint is that to capture a crystal you must get lucky like the rest of the monsters rather than just receive the crystal upon victory but, whatever, I still enjoy it.

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Damn, you cant edit posts, so I\'ll do another one because I forgot to address the story DLC. It is a great concept but only if its executed properly. I loved that we got to see some of Sazh with the Heads or Tails DLC but, I must admit that the DLC was less than stellar. Chronobind was a confusing, we didnt really did much with Sazh and the whole thing lasted no more than 2 hours. I guess I was expecting something much bigger like a whole new episode but with Sazh. Similar to Mass Effect\'s 2 Lair of the Shadow Broker but, when I saw the price I kinda knew I wasnt in for something totally amazing. At least I know how to play texas hold em now lol.

Heres hoping Square Enix pulls of Lightning\'s DLC with perfect execution and not just rely on people buying it because its Lightning\'s DLC.

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"Fool, prate not to me about covenants. There can be no covenants between men and lions, wolves and lambs can never be of one mind, but hate each other out and out an through. Therefore there can be no understanding between you and me, nor may there be any covenants between us, till one or other shall fall and glut grim Ares with his life's blood."
-Achilles, The Iliad Book XXII

(March 10, 2012 01:46:14 AM)Achilles Wrote:  Damn, you cant edit posts,

I merged them for you. If you're on the main site, go to "Community," find the article's thread, then click "Edit" on your post. ^_^

(March 10, 2012 01:46:14 AM)Achilles Wrote:  DLC is not something that developers just magically cook up after a game is released people, DLC takes much planning even before the game launches and as much as effort to create it. DLC is profitable, thats why Square along with many others Publishers and Devs are creating it. Cry foul when a game that releases has disc locked content that you have to pay for as \"DLC\". See GoW3 and the recent Street Fighter X Tekken.

What's the difference if they put the Content on the disk to later be Paid/Unlocked or just hold onto it for you to Pay/Download later? Either way it was produced during it's development process.

Sure, it doesn't magically appear, but what's new? Games have been developed for many years and managed to release ALL of their content at release date. They managed to live without cutting content to sell later via download. You make it sound as if side quests and unlockables are suddenly commodities that they need to pawn separately all of a sudden.

Shoot, could you imagine all of Golden Saucer being withheld from FF7 and required to be paid DLC? Or Yuffie being a DLC character? It's just sad to me.

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(March 10, 2012 02:41:31 AM)Zeruel Wrote:  Shoot, could you imagine all of Golden Saucer being withheld from FF7 and required to be paid DLC? Or Yuffie being a DLC character?

That would be like a dream come true for me XP

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(March 10, 2012 02:41:31 AM)Zeruel Wrote:  I merged them for you. If you're on the main site, go to "Community," find the article's thread, then click "Edit" on your post. ^_^


What's the difference if they put the Content on the disk to later be Paid/Unlocked or just hold onto it for you to Pay/Download later? Either way it was produced during it's development process.

Sure, it doesn't magically appear, but what's new? Games have been developed for many years and managed to release ALL of their content at release date. They managed to live without cutting content to sell later via download. You make it sound as if side quests and unlockables are suddenly commodities that they need to pawn separately all of a sudden.

Shoot, could you imagine all of Golden Saucer being withheld from FF7 and required to be paid DLC? Or Yuffie being a DLC character? It's just sad to me.

The thing about all of this though is the game market has changed a LOT since FF7 came out, when games cost a tenth as much to make and didn\'t need to turn out MASSIVE profits to avoid crashing entire development studios.

Games cost A LOT of money to make know. A truly astounding amount. And if companies don\'t get a return on their investment, they strike out. Or something even then -- LA Noir, anyone? With the rise of piracy and pre-owned game sales (neither of which I think are bad things, for the record), the problem has become even bigger. Now a sale doesn\'t even neccessarily mean a sale. If two million people play your game, but only one million copies were actually sold, you\'re screwed. Game companies trying to shut down pre-owned sales is something that people seem almost religiously offended by, so they can\'t go after that. Pretty much the only way, in fact, for companies to still turn a profit in this new climate, is to develop addititional content at a highly inflated price and hope enough people liked the original game to spend the money on it.

Some DLC is better than other DLC, definitely. And I perosnally really hate DLC that should have been a part of the main game, like the two sequences that were very obviously ripped out of Assassin\'s Creed 2 and then sold as DLC. But additional scenarios that enrich but don\'t COMPLETE a game experience are fine by me. Costumes and extra battles, even more so.

Basically: nobody LOVES DLC, but it really needs to exist in today\'s development climate. It\'s one of the only things that\'s keeping games profitable for companies making them right now. Wouldn\'t you rather square overcharge you for minigames than square stop making games, period?

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I don't mind DLC in general, but 13-2's DLC has really put me in a less than stella mood. Weapons and costumes fine. Additional story also fine. Making the customer pay for DLC that is integral to the story of the original game, not fine. Why should the customer pay twice for content which should've been part of the game. People who have played the entire game simply cannot be happy about having bought an incomplete game, and then having to fork out more cash in order to get the full story.

As i said earlier i don't mind DLC which has additional gameplay, and story which is an add on, but some of this DLC is simply a rip off seeing as we paid for a full game and full story when we originally bought it.

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(March 10, 2012 07:47:27 AM)RosaAquafire Wrote:  Basically: nobody LOVES DLC, but it really needs to exist in today\'s development climate. It\'s one of the only things that\'s keeping games profitable for companies making them right now. Wouldn\'t you rather square overcharge you for minigames than square stop making games, period?

Great post, I agree. To be honest, my issue isn't really with costumes and mini games. It's with story and content that was supposed to be with the game to begin with. Example here being Lightning's story that was supposed to be in the game to begin with. Like I stated, they talked about the game being about lightning and Serah fighting to a similar goal, but when it was released, Lightning was nowhere to be found. I believe it was removed to be sold with this up coming DLC.

Also, I'm pretty sure FF7 was a HUGE leap for Square from FF6 in regards to cost of development. They created a great system and popped out 3 amazing games. While 7 probably took them quite a bit, the other two were probably massive profits. They'll see that again with 13-2, and soon 13-3. This is all speculation of course. However it goes to show efficiency is key to making it anymore with costs being so great nowadays.

You're right though, I'm happy to see them do whatever it takes to stay in business. Shoot, I'd have a huge lack of solid games if SE went down the tubes. But at the same time, I won't clap if I see them rip content from me when I support them handily with $100 (CE+Guide).

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